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Hey guys, Isaac here.

Just a reminder that we are on vacation this week. But I hope you enjoy this rerun of a

past podcast episode. We'll be back with fresh episodes on Monday, August 21st. Enjoy.

From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.

Good morning. Good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast,

a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking and reasonable debate. Without all that hysterical nonsense, you find everywhere else. I am your host, Isaac Saul. And on today's episode, we have a very interesting guest, a man named John Sego, who is the legislative director for Texas Right to Live, the group that recently helped Shepard Texas's anti-abortion law into existence. John, thank you so much for joining us today.

Absolutely. Thanks for having me. So before we jump in, I think, you know, there are some basics to get to,

and one of them is just, you know, what you do, what your role is at Texas Rights of Life

and how you got into this work.

Yeah.

So I serve as a legislative director for Texas Rights to Life.

We're the largest pro-life organization here in the state.

And I run our legislative department that has five lobbyists and researchers. And we

kind of work with elected officials and government agencies to pass pro-life legislation

and pro-life policies.

During our legislative session, we're in the Capitol every day,

meeting with elected officials and their staff,

you know, testifying on legislation,

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