Tann, it's got the code it's going to launch.

It's a unit system.

I know this.

It's all the files of the whole park.

It tells her everything.

Sir, he's uploading the virus.

Eagle one.

The package is being delivered.

They are the hacker's hacker that nobody knows.

In fact, nobody even knows if they're just one person or several.

All we know is Phineas Fisher has hacked, embarrassed, and exposed some of the world's most powerful spyware companies that have connections to places like the FBI, the DEA, and dozens of other

law enforcement and spy agencies all around the world. Then they vanish completely without a trace.

Through these exploits, motherboard reporter Lorenzo Franceschi Bikirai has been

one of the premier reporters on the beat. He's interviewed the infamous hacker several times.

Well, we've made contact with Phineas Fisher again. I'm Ben Maku, and this is Cyber.

It was the summer of 2014. I'm Ben Maku and this is Cyber.

It was the summer of 2014.

I think it was the week of Black Hat and DefCon, which made it pretty funny actually when this happened.

So someone at that time, someone hacked into the servers of Finn Fisher, this German-British company that makes spyware for governments all around the world, and dumped all they could find online.

So this was a pretty classic hack and leak operation. The goal was ostensibly to embarrass the company and damage it as much as possible.

To give listeners some context, Finn Fisher has been in the news, especially during those years,

for selling spyware to questionable governments like Ethiopia,

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