Re-release of Robert Kagan on Trump 2.0: A Global Nightmare?

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🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Rick talks with author Robert Kagan about anti-liberalism and its resurgence in the United States. They explore the historical resistance to individual rights, the rise of white Christian nationalism, and the potential global implications of a second Trump administration. You can read Robert Kagan’s columns in The Washington Post and you can buy his book “Rebellion: How Antiiberalism Is Tearing America Apart – Again” at fine bookstores everywhere. Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X or at https://bsky.app/profile/therickwilson.bsky.social at Bluesky, and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. Join the fight with Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow us on X at @ProjectLincoln. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Are you a smart booker or a silly booker?
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0:25.6	at all protected.
0:28.7	Robert is a brilliant writer who has a terrific book out called Rebellion.
0:34.1	How anti-liberalism is destroying America.
0:37.5	Is it destroying America or did I just fuck that up?
0:40.3	It doesn't matter.
0:41.4	It's a stupid subtitle.
0:42.6	What difference is it may?
0:44.3	Your task will not be an easy one.
0:46.7	Your enemy is well-trained, well-equipped, and battle-hardened.
0:50.5	There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.
0:53.8	There is the United States of America.
0:59.1	Good night and good luck.
1:01.0	Hi folks and welcome back to the Lincoln Project podcast. I'm your host, Rick Wilson.
1:04.9	We are joined today by Robert Kagan. Robert is a brilliant writer and a great thinker.
1:10.1	He has a terrific new book out called
1:12.1	Rebellion, how anti-liberalism is tearing America apart again. Robert, thank you so much for coming
1:18.4	on the show. And I want to ask you about the origin story of why you decided to write this book.
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