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Hey, welcome back to Gun Talk, Tom Greshemeer. Our numbers 866 Gun, or just about Tom Talk Gun.

Yeah, I'll give it. Tom at Gun Talk.com, email, if you want to shoot a note over there.

I've spent a fair amount of the last 30 years documenting how the gun band industry, as I have come to call it,

persuades people to their point of view.

It also getting us to use more effective terms and words and tactics and techniques,

basically being smarter rather than just trotting out bumper sticker slogans.

It's about being persuasive,

and it's about understanding the medium,

the medium of being persuasive and how it works.

And occasionally you run into somebody who really gets it.

Our next guest absolutely does.

Dad Walsh has written this pretty great book. I'm reading it right now.

Good Gun Bad Guy, behind the lives of the anti-gunned radical. He says he was an anti-gunner.

Now he is a pro-gunner. and joins us right now Dan welcome to gun talk

hey Tom thanks for having me on your show I've been looking forward to this because

you too get it and it's important and I love listening to you talk about this stuff

because not many people are talking about the in you know that you have a good

insight into the mind of the anti gunnerner. Well, first all, let me, I gotta ask you, how do you, were you really anti-gun and if so, how did you get from that to where you are now?

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