Hi, I'm Hana Rosen, the new host of Radio Atlantic, and I'm here to make trouble in a friendly way.

Hana, honestly, I don't know if you're just playing devil's advocate or you actually believe this, but I think you're off on this.

I just think you're genuinely off.

What do you mean I'm off? I'm just being genuinely realistic.

Okay, something to know about me.

I've done a lot of competitive debating, so I know how to screw it in eyes and idea.

I want to do that on this podcast, in a way that helps you make up your own mind about what's happening in the world.

I want us to look at the most interesting ideas.

Ideas out there we may not like so much, or we don't understand, or even trust, like AI medicine.

The people who have the means and the power, they're going to have the in-person doctor experience, right?

Whereas the rest of us are going to get dockbot.

Exactly.

We'll get to the real edge of things that we all need to figure out about Ukraine, our courts, the elections, teens and social media.

Another frustrating element of this conversation is how paternalistic that ends up sounding, like rescuing these tiny damsels and distress from the evil machine.

I already like understand so much more than I did.

You know, half an hour ago when we started this conversation.

There's this phrase someone said to me recently.

Road testing ideas. Like you would road test a car.

You run them through the dirt, see if they can stand up to actual real world conditions.

And I am totally okay being wrong.

Here is my promise.

I will approach every conversation, thinking I can end up in a totally different place than I began.

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