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So, 27, yeah, 27 years ago, I'm sitting in my dad's office at his church.

It's just my dad and it's two of us and a counselor again. And we're meeting with our counselor

every week trying to figure out how to fix our broken, damaged relationship.

And the strange thing is if you can kind of put yourself in our position for just a minute,

we'd spend our whole career telling people how to fix broken, damaged relationships.

And now we had one and we're the experts and we were stuck and we were angry and we were hurt.

And here's why, because he saw things his way and I saw things the right way.

And I could not understand for the life of me why we weren't making any progress, right?

I mean, it was this simple dad. If you will just see things my way, we'll be on our way, right?

Now, you laugh and the reason you laugh is because I know what you're thinking,

you're thinking, finally, someone understands me. Finally, someone understands the situation

in the circumstances I'm in as I try to navigate difficult relationships. If you think about your

current fractured relationship, a distant fractured relationship that's actually just been broken

for a long, long time, it could be recent, distant, it could be family work, a good friend,

and there's just been this weird thing. And now it's just awkward and you can tell you're drifting

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