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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center.

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty.

And now here's Armstrong and getting it.

The way I look at artificial intelligence, it's both like it could be a threat for sure,

and it could be a massive opportunity.

What I don't understand is when I walk around this city or you talk to lawmakers, why people aren't obsessed with this?

It is going to reorder society over the next decade and almost any person who's studied it at any level has come to that exact same conclusion.

I sometimes joke to Mikey and others and I feel like I'm living in a simulation where you see so clearly where the world's going over the next five years.

And yet Washington pays very little attention to it.

Jim Vanda High is getting a lot of attention for a piece.

He wrote for Axios about AI.

There's a big one in the New Yorker also in which they have two AI experts,

one arguing it's going to change society more than

anything ever has, and very soon, and another expert arguing that now it's way, way, way

overblown and any of the effects are years off, which I hope that that guy's right,

although I tend to think the other guy's right, that it's happening sooner and

going to be a big deal. I've been reading James Van de Hyes' piece in which, among other things,

he interviews Dario Amaday. Is that how you're pronouncing? He's the CEO of Anthropic, one of the

most powerful AI companies in the world. And it occurred to me the perfect metaphor.

I don't know why I see the world in metaphors.

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