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RE 571: From Passive to Active Recovery

Recovery Elevator

Paul

Self-improvement, Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Today we have Veronica. She is 52 years old, lives in Alabama and she had her last drink on May 1st, 2000.

 

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Upcoming Events with Recovery Elevator

 

February 21st – 28th we are traveling to Costa Rica. The event is full, but you can email info@recoveryelevator.com to get on the waiting list.

 

August 12th – 16th we will be having our annual Bozeman retreat. Registration opens on April 1st at 9am Eastern Time.

 

October 17th – 24th we will host our Sober Ukelele Retreat in Costa Rica

 

[03:07] Thoughts from Paul:

 

Paul wants to talk about the exploration he mentioned at the end of last week's intro. When you first quit drinking, things kind of happen to you – sleep improves, your head clears and maybe a hobby resurfaces on it's own. It's passive.

 

But at some point, you realize that your not just not drinking anymore. You're actually living. And you get to decide what that looks like. This is the intentional phase where you stop wandering and start exploring with purpose.

 

Now is the time to think about some things that you may have wanted to do but didn't have the space for because alcohol consumed it all. Now you have the bandwidth to explore what you want to make space for in your life.

 

This week, Paul wants you to ask yourself, "what's one thing I've been curious about that I haven't made time for?" Just one small piece of unexplored territory.

 

Next week we will talk about what happens when you start building momentum but for now, just pick your direction. The expedition starts with a single step – now take it.

 

[7:40] Paul introduces Veronica:

 

Veronica is British but has lived in the US for about 15 years. She is married and has two sons. Veronica has worked as a psychotherapist and sobriety coach for many years, has written three books and has a strong online presence in the recovery space with Soberful (also the name of her most recent book).

 

Veronica started drinking when she was around age 13. She felt like it fixed the issues she had with being uncomfortable in her own skin. She says she was a binge drinker and began to use hallucinogenic drugs which impacted her negatively and triggered major anxiety for which she used alcohol to control.

 

Veronica was always looking for help for her anxiety and depression but never considered alcohol was contributing. When she moved to Florida, she met someone sober and it changed her outlook. Additionally, she was taking college courses in addiction counseling and after brief time of accidental sobriety, she began attending 12 step meetings to learn more about the people she planned to help.

 

Initially she didn't identify with anyone at the meetings until someone spoke about fear. Veronica says this was her moment of clarity. Veronica feels that fear is the engine of an alcohol problem and it manifests anxiety and panic attacks in a lot of people.

 

Veronica went all in with getting a sponsor and doing the steps, becoming a therapist and began to work in a rehab. At 3 years sober, she hit an emotional rock bottom and discovered the work of emotional sobriety. She has discovered that this is 90% of the work of getting sober. Veronica acknowledges that working on emotional sobriety is a lifelong journey and changing our perceptions of things to overcome resentment is an important part of it.

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Recovery Elevator episode 5701

0:04.1

Sobriety is the gift that keeps on giving.

0:08.1

At 25 years, I'll be 26 years in May,

0:10.5

I want to tell you, you probably notice this as well.

0:12.6

My gratitude just deepens.

0:14.2

Like, I am more and more aware of what I have in my life

0:18.6

is because of my sobriety.

0:43.1

Music what I have in my life is because of my sobriety. Welcome to the Recovery Elevator Podcast.

0:46.4

My name is Paul Churchill, and I'm excited to be here with you today.

0:48.4

On today's episode, we have Veronica. She's 52 years old, calling in from Alabama, and she took her last drink over 20 years ago. Great job Veronica.

0:57.4

A quick lineup of our upcoming events and registration dates. This February 21st to the 28th,

1:03.5

we have a sober travel trip to Costa Rica. This trip is full, but you can get on the waiting list.

1:08.3

Email info at recoveryelevator.com. And then we are in

1:11.9

Bowsman, Montana, August 12th to the 16th for our annual flagship retreat. Registration for this

1:18.5

event opens April 1st at 9 a.m. And then we have our alcohol-free ukulele retreat in Costa Rica,

1:26.3

October 17th to the 24th, 2006, and registration opens Monday, March 9th.

1:33.4

I'm absolutely pumped for this retreat. There's a link in the show notes for all of these events.

1:38.0

Thank you, Robin. I want to give a major shout out to the Dolce Vita launch team. You all showed up big time. We had almost 200

1:47.0

people sign up to help launch my latest book and we hit Amazon bestseller status in a couple

1:52.4

different charts. So again, a massive thank you and let me know if there's anything I can

1:58.3

help you with. And before we get any further, I want to mention this is an ad from Better Help.

2:04.2

The new year doesn't require a new you, but maybe a less burdened you.

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