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Today we have Rachel. She is 48 years old and lives in Minneapolis, MN. She took her last drink on August 28th, 2018.
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Come join us in beautiful Bozeman, Montana this August 6th – 10th for our annual flagship retreat. We have a few camping spots as well as a few spots left in the men’s cabin.
[02:50] Thoughts from Paul:
Healing can look a bit like a paradox and Paul shares several examples showing this. Tying this same idea into ditching the booze we can say that quitting drinking can make you feel more anxious at first, when it’s actually making you calmer in the long run. Quitting drinking can make you feel more emotional and raw when it’s actually making you more resilient. Sobriety can make you feel bored at first, but it’s actually clearing space for hobbies and adventures that you’ll deeply enjoy.
Healing can hurt at first, but look out, brighter days are just on the horizon. Can you do this? Absolutely. Will there be stumbles, bad days? Without a doubt.
You can do this, you are doing this and you’re further along on your AF journey than you think. Keep moving forward.
[06:30] Paul introduces Rachel:
Rachel is 48 and lives just outside of Minneapolis, MN. She is married and they have three cats. She is a director in financial services and for fun she enjoys reading, writing and attending meet ups with other sober people.
Alcohol was always present when Rachel was growing up. She was an achiever in school and had already completed some college before graduating high school. Drinking was not a focus for her through her school years, and she didn’t start drinking until later in her life.
Around 2008 during the national financial crisis, Rachel says her drinking changed. Being a bond trader during this time was tough due to the uncertainty of the future. Rachel found herself having a drink after work and it became part of habit loop for her: go to work, come home, have a drink. Over the next 7 to 10 years, that one drink turned into multiple bottles.
Rachel was desperate to figure out how to solve this issue without drinking and tried moderation with no luck. She began reading books like This Naked Mind and listening to podcasts like RE. She felt the stories on the podcast were relatable because they were normal people and not the stereotypical bum under a bridge with the brown paper bag.
After hearing suggestions of trying to quit for 30 days, Rachel decided to try it and has been sober ever since. She says the first three days were hard but within seven days she was sleeping better than she ever had. Rachel began substituting wine with sparkling water and while it was tough at first, it became her new habit. She also joined Café RE and found community there and in AA.
Rachel recently self-published a book called Functional: A High Performer's Guide to Achieving Freedom from Alcohol. She says she wrote a book that she wishes were available to her when she got sober. Many of the books out there have glaring rock bottom moments which Rachel said she didn’t have. She believes that it may sometimes be harder for people without a rock bottom to quit because it isn’t as obvious that they need to.
Rachel’s best advice to somebody that is functional is to just try to quit for 30 days and use it as a time of self-discovery.
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0:00.0 | Recovery Elevator Episode 545. |
0:04.2 | Nothing I have ever done since being alcohol-free is actually harder than drinking all the time. |
0:13.0 | Music Welcome to the Recovery Elevator Podcast. My name is Paul Churchill, and I'm stoked to be here with you today. |
0:39.4 | Listeners on today's episode, we have Rachel. She's 48 years old from Minneapolis, Minnesota, and she took her last drink of alcohol on August 28, 2018. Great Job, Rachel. |
0:53.8 | Come join us in beautiful Bozeman, Montana august 6th through the 10th for our |
0:58.2 | flagship annual retreat all we've got is men's cabin spots and camping spots left there's a link in |
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2:54.7 | the healing process and how it can look when you quit drinking. Now, healing can look a bit like a |
3:00.3 | paradox and here are some examples. Working out or lifting weights can make you feel weak when it's |
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