RE 174: Addressing Self Loathing With Compassionate Curiosity
Recovery Elevator
Paul
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🗓️ 18 June 2018
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Compassionate Curiosity: a way we can get to the root of why we drink.
"The problem's not that the truth is harsh, but that liberation from ignorance is as painful as being born. Run after truth until you're breathless. Accept the pain involved in re-creating yourself afresh." - Naguib Mahfouz
One of the biggest root causes of addition is self loathing. Feeling like we are not worthy or that we are in any way less than others is a belief often found at the center of our addictive behavior.
The cure for self loathing is self compassion, or self love. Replacing the habit that is self judgment with forgiveness, the mental rigidity with an intention of being open, or the repetitive criticism with positive messages that we can do this are some of the first steps toward distancing ourselves from addictive tendencies.
We begin with a process of self examination, wherein we compassionately do so without judgment.
"There is no moving forward without breaking through the walls of denial." -Gabor Maté
Kim, with 1½ years since her last drink, shares her story...
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[1:30] Paul Introduces Kim.
Kim is 37 years old from Arkansas. She's been sober over 1½ years. She's married with 3 kids. She works as a counselor. She enjoys her spending with her family, reading, and Kintsugi.
[6:05] When did you first realize you had a problem with drinking?
She experienced complications with her pregnancy. With that came a prescription of pain medication. After she went through the pain meds, she noticed that she couldn't stop drinking.
[9:06] Did you try to put any rules into place?
From her work with addiction, she knows that putting rules into place is addictive behavior. She was probably going through a half gallon of vodka per week. She attempted to quit throughout 2017.. nothing really stuck.
[10:35] What were some lessons you learned in your previous attempts to quit?
She has a stubborn personality. When she tried to quit using her will power, she failed. It scared her. She started researching different podcasts, and found Recovery Elevator. She was worried that she couldn't do it alone. She began to find other stories and realized that she was on a slippery slope.
[13:20] How were you able to quit successfully?
She realized that she needed to remove triggers. She tried to eliminate stress. She hired someone to help her with small duties.
[15:50] How are you able to maintain professional distance in your job working with addicts?
When you work in a field where you give to others, you have to make sure that you are ok first. You have to give to others what you can spare, not what you need.
[17:00] Walk us through the early days of your recovery.
The first month was difficult. She had lots of cravings. She tried to keep the memory of her difficult year close. She would use the brainspotting technique. She knows people can relapse after years and years. The addiction waits to see where the hole is, and that's where it gets you.
[23:50] Are you able to be open about your own recovery with patients?
Reaching out to Paul helped her realize how she was in denial about her addictions. She shares her recovery experience with some patients, and it's been much more helpful.
[24:40] What are the common hangups that your patients have?
The biggest struggle is the stagma and the shame. Also, the surrendering to higher power.
[27:10] What is the biggest thing you've learned about yourself?
She needs to show herself the same compassion that she gives to everyone around her.
[27:40] What has been your proudest moment in sobriety?
Sharing with her clients. Showing them that she also struggles with different things.
[28:28] What are you looking forward to in Peru?
Seeing the beauty, and being a part of a recovery community.
[29:10] Rapid Fire Round
- What was your worst memory from drinking?
Pre-parent: 17yo, on vacation with family in Mexico. Parents lied about her age so she could drink at the resort. She hung out at the bars. On the last night, she was sexually assaulted.
As a parent: She used to drank in front of her young child. Her child began to copy her drinking behavior by drinking his water in a small cup with a straw. - Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment?
- What's your plan moving forward?
She would like to be a voice for recovery with mental health professionals. - What's your favorite resource in recovery?
Her faith is strong and it helps her in her darkest moments.
The Miracle Morning. She does it daily no matter what.
Recovery Elevator podcast. She looks forward to listening weekly. - What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)?
You can't do this alone. The magic happened when she reached out. - What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking?
A quote by Carl Jung.. "What you resist, persists. What you can feel, you can heal." - You might be an alcoholic if...
While listening to someone else's story you think to yourself that you need to remember it in case you relapse.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
Audible is offering my listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trail membership. Go to audible.com/elevator and start listening. Or text ELEVATOR to 500-500.
In the Realm of the Hungry Ghosts – a book by Gabor Maté
When Things Fall Apart – a book by Pema Chodron
The Miracle Morning – a book by Hal Elrod
Kintsuji – The japanese artform of "golden joinery".
Brainspotting – a theraputic technique
Connect with Cafe RE- Use the promo code Elevator for your first month free
Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com
"We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"
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| 0:00.0 | Support for today's episode comes from Audible. |
| 0:02.6 | Audible is offering my listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership. |
| 0:07.3 | Just go to audible.com forward slash elevator or text elevator to 500-500 to get started today. |
| 0:14.3 | Recovery elevator episode 174. |
| 0:18.0 | Addiction works like that and that's how people can |
| 0:21.6 | relapse after years and years and |
| 0:23.8 | because the addiction just sits there and waits. |
| 0:27.6 | And it learns your, you know, your recovery portfolio. |
| 0:31.2 | And it basically waits to see where the whole is and that's when it gets you. Welcome to the Recovery Elevator Podcast. My name is Paul Churchill. Thank you so much for joining us. |
| 0:52.0 | According to the Recovery Elevator Sub sobriety Tracker on my phone, |
| 0:55.0 | I've been sober for 1,370 days. |
| 0:58.1 | On today's podcast, we've got Kim. |
| 0:59.8 | She's 37 years old. |
| 1:01.3 | She's from Arkansas. She's been sober since New Year's Eve, 2017, and she's an |
| 1:06.8 | addiction's counselor. Wow, what a great fit for this podcast interview. |
| 1:10.8 | Before we get started with today's topic, there's a couple things I'd like to announce. Their first one being there is a third eye blind concert in Denver, Colorado on July 22nd that you should probably go to. I say that because I'm going to it. There's a bunch of us from |
| 1:24.3 | Cathay-R-E that are going to go to it and it's going to be awesome. Why? Well, because it's third-eye blind. |
| 1:29.7 | Really no convincing and needed. And if you go to the concert, I would love to meet you in person. |
| 1:35.2 | I'm gonna be the guy wearing the third eye blind shirt and then, |
| 1:38.1 | wait a second, I think like half the crowd is gonna be wearing a third eye blind shirt. |
| 1:41.3 | Let's swap that plan. I'm gonna be the guy wearing a third-eyed line shirt. Let's swap that plan. |
| 1:42.8 | I'm going to be the guy wearing a recovery elevator shirt. |
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