RE 113: Healthcare, Alcohol, and Addiction
Recovery Elevator
Paul
4.7 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 17 April 2017
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
Michael, with 32 years since his last drink, shares his story.
In a recent CNN interview with Jeremy Broderick, he talks about how the GOP replacement plan for Obamacare makes things worse for the addict. Many treatment plans were covered under Medicaid as well as the Affordable Care Act. Trump-care isn't what is seems to be and pushes more for accessibility instead of universal coverage. In the meantime, 200 people die a day while the government sorts this out. It is estimated that for every $1.00 spent on treatment, $4.00 is saved on healthcare and for every $1.00 spent on education/prevention, $50.00 is saved on healthcare.
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[8:18] Paul Introduces Michael
Michael – I am 60 years old with 32 years of sobriety. I have 2 twin sons and I run health and wellness websites. I like to walk, hike and meet like-minded people.
[10:48] When did you realize that you had a problem?
Michael – it was long before I was 28 years old. I started drinking alcoholically at age 14. I was in an accident and arrested for DUI at the age of 19. My drinking slowed down a little when my uncle died but I picked up smoking weed instead. Cocaine was finally my downfall. I was starting to spend hours in blackouts and was continuously apologizing for things that I had done.
[13:14] What were your drinking habits like?
Michael – During nights' outs, I could drink 20 bottles of beer. We would go out to the bars starting at midnight and drink until 7am.
[14:08] Did you ever put any rules into place to control your drinking?
Michael – I couldn't start drinking early in the day because I would keep going. I intentionally started drinking later in the day so that I had a chance to make it home safely.
[15:23] What drug do you think led you to cocaine? Pot or alcohol?
Michael – It was probably the pot. I needed it when I first woke up in the morning just to be able to get to work.
[16:04] How did you do it?
Michael – I started going to meetings and was completely overwhelmed by the love of the community. They enveloped me with their hugs and love. Our motto was hugs, not drugs. I went to 1 sober party after another. There wasn't any time to do drugs. I learned to be careful who I surrounded myself with. Build your community of sober friends. Community is everything to me. I never feel alone when I surround myself with people who are moving in the same direction. There is no addiction sigma within these sober communities.
[22:29] Did you start with NA or AA?
Michael – I started with NA and we were a small group. We were sponsoring 5-10 people at a time. I received some advice that I should try an AA meeting in order to see what longer term sobriety was. My first AA meeting had some old timers who basically told me to, "sit down and shut up." They taught us what real time recovery was.
[25:35] What is your advice for finding real recovery?
Michael – You've got to tap in to your resources. There are many milestones that are going to happen to you in recovery. Your world can still fall apart at any time. You will always have to deal with emotional experiences.
[27:27] What advice would you give to your younger self?
Michael – When we are drinking, we tend to gravitate towards other drinkers. Most of the rest of the population does not drink like we do. It is OK to be with these normal/non-drinkers. There is an entire world full of incredible people who do not care whether you drink or not.
[30:00] Tell us your thoughts regarding sugar addiction.
Michael – I think that sugar is the real gateway drug. It is so subtle that you do not realize it is even happening. Sugar is a powerful psychoactive drug. You can become physically and mentally addicted to sugar. We crave it when we need a mental break. When we eat sugar, we temporarily feel better about ourselves.
[35:40] What is viral recovery.com?
Michael – It is my website where I advocate to change the stigma of addiction with healthcare. I post what others are doing (such as Paul!) to change the attitudes surrounding addiction.
[36:51] Rapid Fire Round
- What was your worst memory from drinking? I had been in a car accident and a telephone pole was literally sitting in the passenger seat of my car
- Did you ever have an "oh-shit" moment? every time I woke up in the morning with wet pants
- What's your plan moving forward? spread the message and stay tight with your sober community
- What's your favorite resource in recovery? On-line recovery tools
- What's the best advice you've ever received (on sobriety)? my sponsor had me look up at the stars and asked me if I thought it was possible that the whole world just might not be about me
- What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are in recovery or thinking about quitting drinking? be kind to yourself, learn to self-care and be aware of not degrading yourself
- You might be an alcoholic if…..you look ahead through weeks of weddings, work parties, etc. and it's exhausting trying to juggle and control your drinking.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
Connect with Cafe RE- Use the promo code Elevator for your first month free
Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com
www.facingaddiction.org – to sign the petition
"We took the elevator down, we gotta take the stairs back up, we can do this!"
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| 0:00.0 | Recovery Elevator episode 113. |
| 0:03.4 | And this group became my support system, my family, |
| 0:07.8 | and they helped me in just numerous ways. |
| 0:10.9 | But mostly it was just the flat-out community of it all. |
| 0:17.0 | Welcome to the Recovery Elevator Podcast. |
| 0:22.0 | My name is Paul. Thank you so much for joining us. According to the Recovery Elevator podcast. My name is Paul. Thank you so much for joining us. |
| 0:24.0 | According to the Recovery Elevator, a variety tracker on my phone, I have been sober for two years, six months, two weeks, and two days. |
| 0:31.6 | On today's podcast, we've got Michael. He lives in LA. He's been sober for 32 years. He's 60 years old and has got some killer value bombs during this podcast interview. He also has some really good |
| 0:46.0 | things to say about sugar addiction. Hmm. I know a lot of us out there are struggling to monitor |
| 0:52.0 | our sugar intake. Before we get any further, let's hear from |
| 0:55.7 | Café R.E. Before I got sober, I felt alone. It felt like I was the only one in the whole world |
| 1:01.5 | who found it extremely difficult to stop drinking once I had started. |
| 1:04.9 | With Cafe R.E. I now know I'm not alone. In fact, there are so many people all around this world just like me. |
| 1:10.8 | In Cafe R.E. for $12 a month, I get access to a private unsearchable |
| 1:15.4 | Facebook group where I can connect with other like-minded individuals, meet with them |
| 1:19.2 | face to face in several weekly live webinars and meetings I can get paired with an |
| 1:23.6 | accountability partner who has a similar sobriety date as mine I can attend |
| 1:27.3 | in-person meetups and attend exclusive sober trips to places like Costa Rica. |
| 1:31.6 | If there's one thing I've learned in sobriety it's that I can't do this alone. |
| 1:35.2 | Go to recovery elevator.com and use the promo code elevator for your first month free. |
| 1:40.3 | Again use the promo code elevator when signing up for your first month free. |
| 1:45.0 | Please do me a favor if you enjoy the Recovery Elevator Podcast. |
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