This is reasonable doubt with your host, Mark Garagas, and Gary Smith.

Welcome to recent rule doubt for those of you who, and it was other than the three of

us who didn't know, you could have heard Gary try three times to get into this.

And I won't tease you Gary about the NPR voice, but GPS.

Of course, who would we have on Friday afternoon as all Trump news is breaking, but the

woman in demand herself, the former chief assistant of the Manhattan DA's office, Karen Friedman,

Agnifalo, AKA, hey, F a I Karen. Hello, Mark and Gary. How are you? I'm good. I'm good.

Busy, I'll bet you. And by the way, thank you for carving out a little bit of time.

I'll bet you you couldn't be more in demand right now. Yeah, but you know, I never forget my roots.

I never forget my loyalty, you know, always stays. I'm a loyal person through and through.

So I love it. I love it. So you we last time we had you on, you said the invitation to the grand jury

was one of the last acts and or you were right. I will ask the first question, which is why did it

take this long? And we haven't said you haven't seen an indictment yet. Have you?

No, nobody that I know of has actually seen the indictment yet.

Okay, do you think I have positive, I'm glad to hear you're you're in the weeds, that the

Costello testimony for those who aren't in the weeds. Once Trump was invited, the Trump team said,

we want Mr Costello to go in front of the grand jury and and we talked about the fact that he

said to the grand jury, at least if you believe him, that they had cherry picked six documents

out of hundreds. Do you think that's what slowed things down? I actually don't see this as being

slowed down. So the reason the seems slow to people is because the grand jury process is normally

secret and people don't really know what goes on or how how this works. So the really the what the

way this works is, brand juries in New York, which is how you formally charge someone with a felony

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