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I think a lot of that is like them just trying to come up with some sort of explanation that

because they don't exactly know what they are, so they're trying to come up with anything.

I mean if you're the government right and you're going to put out all this wacky nonsense

garbage to cloud exactly really what's going on.

And we've seen the evidence of that with the Paul Benowitz case.

I've been on your show discussing it.

And it's a very familiar case.

They just fed him a bunch of nonsensical garbage about extraterrestrials and then he went out and told

everybody all of that made up nonsensical garbage and everyone started to believe that and then

run with those stories like that extraterrestrials signed a treaty with the government and the

military to do a extraterrestrial base in

you know new mexico and all that and that's where you get the uh the dulce base or the

deluxe base or whatever the whatever people call it they're so strict with their terminology and

if you misspell something you must be a fed or you mispronounce something you must be a fed, or you mispronounce something, you must be a fed.

But that's what my contention is, is like they've just muddied the waters of all this stuff so much,

and it's gotten so grilled into the zeitgeist of everybody that's even remotely interested in the topic,

and you have to scroll through so much

garbage and nonsense whenever you research any of this stuff to actually get down to the truth of

anything and that leads me to like the next thing is like um brett Weinstein was just on

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