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Do you think that connects us into, because when I interviewed Dr. Jacques Valet a few weeks ago, he mentioned some, when we were talking, he basically was laying out of this idea that if we want to understand

the phenomenon we have to sort of explore the realm of the occult and he mentioned something

about Scientology like the early Scientology days being some kind of I don't know some

kind of connection into this whole thing do you think that that's and then of you know, with the foundations of Elron Hubbard's Scientology connected to Jack Parsons, like to me, it seems like these things are all kind of connected. And, and, uh, maybe, maybe it's, we're going through a weird kind of disclosure on that right now, because I don't think 60 years ago this would have been a popular

or acceptable topic to claim that Jack Parsons Antichrist and Elron Hubbard were out in the

desert jacking off and opening up portals and I think I think the masses would be like what are you guys

smoking what are you talking about? You know what I mean?

Yeah, this Wikipedia article right here says put off took an interest in the church of

Scientology in the late 1960s and reached what was known as O.P. Level 7 by 1971, put off,

wrote up his wins for Scientology publication, claiming to achieve remote viewing abilities.

In 1974, put off also wrote a piece for Scientology, celebrity magazine stating in Scientology had given him a feeling of absolute fearlessness, put off, served, all connection

with, severed all connection with Scientology in the late 70s. And like, that's, that's what

people were saying. They were coming at me on, on X and on Facebook for saying that put off

was a Scientologist. He had left the church. Okay. Do you think that's relevant to, do you think it's relevant to the, the, the arguments of whether or not, you know, like, like, does, does the Scientology teach these people, something about how to make contact, how to remote view. I mean, there must be something there.

Have you dug into that at all?

I mean, I know that they keep kind of guarded secrets in the Church of Scientology,

so maybe that's not public knowledge.

I really haven't because Scientology is a whole other rabbit hole that I would just rather

completely avoid.

Yeah, and it's dangerous, right?

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