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And it's just interesting in the way that all this has snowballed because a lot of the things that were government,

miss and disinformation about extraterrestrials have continuously been perpetuated in the community.

And it's gone as far, Walter, as a whistleblower up there testifying in front of Congress that a lot of about the exact same things

that were being talked about, you know, 60 years ago, almost.

Yeah.

I do want to add that my problem with the Mirageman thing was clearly all the things I say in

the film, I said, because there I am saying them.

The book, there was some misrepresentation of what I said in the book.

So if you read the book, that I don't stand by.

So just for what it's worth.

And those guys who made the film, I learned later that they kind of have a sketchy reputation

in the community since then. My understanding is there's some possible attachment to British

intelligence or something. They definitely just had it out for the U.S. national security community.

I didn't know this.

I was recommended to that by a friend, but even he kind of withdrew from them during the making of that.

But anyway, we're done with that.

Yeah, it was still a very interesting film, and I think people should definitely check out.

It's free on YouTube, but we've talked about before the, on the show with you,

the Air Force was doing M.K. Ultra experiments, and people believe that the air force kind of picked up right after the CIA

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