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You don't have the excitement behind it anymore,

then you lack the motivation to do it, right?

It becomes less and less.

But I'm excited that you're here.

Yeah, man. We got a lot to talk about and it seems like we're really seeing this merging of the alternative community with mainstream media

and a lot of things are getting wrapped up into that amazing conspiracy burrito.

And some are happy about it and others are kind of like what's going on.

You know, some see it as like a declaration that they've been right the entire time.

And everything they've been talking about is right, which couldn't be

further from the truth. What do you see is going on here? Well, I mean, everything you said,

I would agree with for sure. I've been researching for the past couple of years into kind of the roots of the world

we see today from many different angles, you know, and what I keep coming back to, it's kind of hard

to ignore, but we do quite often, is how the counterculture itself in this country came to be,

really. And it was all manufactured when you look into it. And when you have that kind of hanging in

the backdrop at all times where there's really no gap. I mean, you can research every decade and there's

something to be said about control of both sides, you know, the mainstream and the alternative

or counterculture, whatever you'd want to call it. It's kind of been a double-edged sword

for as long as we can look back into. And it's really troubling when you have that constantly in the background of your mind

while trying to not necessarily trust or not trust certain individuals.

It's more about the content and the narratives being woven on one side or the other.

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