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I always love talking philosophy with you, Wayne.

It's one of my favorite things to talk about.

And I think some people misunderstand me sometimes on here.

I think that I'm like all factually driven and stuff.

But I mean, I am to a certain degree, but I've never ruled out the possibility that there are things going on outside of our realm of perception.

I mean, obviously there is.

Obviously, there is entities out there lurking.

Obviously, there is an astral realm.

There is an astral plane.

I visited it a few times.

I've never really been outside of my body, but come close.

Come really close.

And I've experienced the pure darkness the the darkness realm

in a near-death experience I think I've spoken on that several times so I think people have

like a weird weird thing with me where they're like oh you know what I mean like there's people

on the internet those people on the internet Wayne sometimes they can suck my friend you know I I was talking today over on my show is that

technically we are already in the astral realm.

We're just in one subdivision of it.

And it seems like there's a lease that, you know,

once the lease comes up, then you head to the next one.

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