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Well, that's where the confusion comes in because there's the gate programs, there's the Monroe Institute, Gateway programs, and then you have the Stargate program and all these things are very similar and

it's created a lot of confusion within people yeah hester here says also school of parapsychology

and uh with association with duke university that is correct the government was funding studies

to uh the parapsychology Foundation in the 60s, along with

University. But that's where the confusion really starts, because if they are gate programs,

that is what it's been commonly referred to in schools as like the gate programs.

Which is very interesting because me and Trey, we were watching a video, which I'm going

to play some of the clips from the video here later on in our discussion here to maybe

try and trigger some memory from you, the same video that me and Trey watched before.

But there's a section in there that's triggering people, okay?

That's like triggering their memories.

And it's this voice that supposedly these kids are putting on these headphones that are

going through a hearing test.

But then a voice comes over the headphones

and says, you should be hearing this in your right ear. If you're not hearing this in your right

year, turn your headphones around, which then brings into the dyslexic things that you were just

kind of, you know, talking about, right? But during our, my conversation with Trey, he says that he knows exactly where this

clip of audio, this triggering people is coming from.

And he's right.

He said that the audio is from the Monroe Institute, Gateway programs. And then I'm like, okay, how are people

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