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Because we know that some of the programs are legit, like the MK Ultra programs,

there's proof of the mk

ultra programs actually being a thing uh stargate programs remote viewing with the cia a lot of those

documents have been declassified you know so we know that they were interested in in doing

these kinds of things and there and there's proof for that but But my original thought whenever I was trying to decipher all this in my mind was that it had

something to do with the Montauk project, right?

And, you know, like how they would, you know, strap people down into a chair.

They would apparently open up a portal in front of them and then

you know which now that i'm thinking about it it seems more like a simulation like what you're

talking about it's a holographic simulation that they're opening up in front of them but my original

thought was that well if they can mind fracture people

with the MK. Ultra, disassociate them to such a degree. And then if they actually could open up a

real portal, then they would be able to take a part of that fractalized consciousness and throw it

through the portal and then have that part of the consciousness go out and live a 20 and

back program 40 and back 60 and back and then come back and it would be like five minutes in this

reality but it was like 40 60 years out there in a completely different alternate reality or

parallel reality i mean everyone's had dreams everyone understands the time war between dreams and reality,

right? Like, you can have a dream that seems like it goes on for days or weeks, right? There's even

been people who have done things like smoke DMT and have an experience like that where they're gone

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