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Hello and welcome to Decoder.

I'm Nelai Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge,

and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

We're back to start the year off with a very special live interview with Razor CEO Min Liang Tan,

which we taped in front of a terrific audience at Brooklyn Bowl in Vegas at CES.

Now, Razor is obviously best known for making mice and keyboards and gaming PCs and its signature black and bright green,

with a smattering of RGB LEDs to set everything off.

But the company always makes splashy announcements at CES, and this year was no different, and along with the hype, there was plenty of controversy.

This year at CES, Razor those splashy headlines and not a little

controversy for something that calls Project Ava, an AI companion that has a physical presence

in the real world. It's an anime hologram that sits in a jar on your desk. Eva is powered by,

you guessed it, Elon Musk's Grock. There's a lot of choices bundled up in all of that,

and Razor can't really fall back on the It's Just a Prototype Defense,

because it's taking $20 reservations

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