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🗓️ 12 June 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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How do you hold on to faith when life falls apart?
Pastor and author Ray Ortlund joins host Curtis Chang for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about suffering, betrayal, regret, and even death—drawing from personal stories and the powerful promise of Isaiah 57:15. From the fractures of the global church to intimate heartbreak, Curtis and Ray explore how spiritual honesty, resurrection hope, the Psalms, and lived community can sustain us through rock-bottom moments. If you're facing pain, loss, or doubt, Ray offers a faithful roadmap toward healing and hope.
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0:00.0 | Do you know what John Wesley said 250 years ago about those early Methodists? |
0:06.0 | He said, our people die well. |
0:11.0 | Dear brother, we owe that to one another. |
0:14.0 | We owe it to our children and our grandchildren. |
0:17.0 | We owe it to this generation. |
0:19.0 | We might not win in the game of this life and this world. But we can live |
0:25.7 | well. By God's grace, we can die well. Welcome to the Good Faith podcast. |
0:45.8 | I'm your host, Curtis Chang. |
0:47.4 | And the Good Faith podcast is where friends who follow Jesus help each other make sense of the world. And an inescapable reality of the world, |
0:58.7 | probably at all times, not probably, certainly at all times, is the presence of suffering. And I think, |
1:06.3 | like I said, it's always been the case. But for somebody living through any particular moment in time, |
1:12.2 | like this moment in time, it can feel like there's a particular intense and high level of |
1:20.0 | suffering, especially when you read the news. You can think of the Ukraine, Gaza, and other countries. |
1:27.0 | Africa, where funding for life-saving medicines |
1:30.3 | has been cut and other suffering in our own country from the disruptive actions of this |
1:35.7 | current administration. |
1:37.1 | Now, this is not just happening in news events that we read about. |
1:42.0 | In your own personal lives, I'm sure you can identify some form of |
1:46.9 | particularly intense suffering. This could be family who are dealing with illnesses, the hard |
1:52.6 | aspects of aging. I'm especially feeling that in my own peer group of aging of their, |
1:57.1 | of parents especially, or our own emotional struggles. |
2:06.9 | In other words, suffering is ubiquitous in our world and, frankly, always has been. |
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