I am here with a Hall of Fame basketball player, a pure shot in the

elever seat, one of the best athletes turned actors ever.

And really in my mind, someone that has caught my attention has this

world is discussing some very interesting topics as someone that

is Jewish. And I watched these stories of you and in the Holocaust

Museum, I saw your interview with Ernie where you were talking about growing

up on military bases and kind of what that gave you.

I just kind of want to jump right in because I don't want to waste any

time. Where, where did your curiosity about the Holocaust come from and

was it from being overseas so much? How did that even start?

Well, I think there's there's a little more involved with my

passion for the Holocaust. And I think it would take a

lot longer to discuss that in a very in-depth. But I truly,

my whole life I've had this feeling inside my gut

in dealing with people, other people. I've been around the world and

you just see so many different ideas and ways to live life.

And to you, the words that you use to express yourself in

England, it's one way in America, it's another way.

And I learned that it's just different and it's not better or worse.

It's just different. And so I just believe, I've always believed in helping people

out more than trying to shun people away or try to disinclude them.

And when I first saw Shillers List back in 1993, that was when the movie

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