Hey, hey, everybody. It's Jared and I have a special guest today, which was already,

um, which you probably already knew by looking at the title of this video. I was going to try and

hide this in there somewhere, but I was like, but it's in the title. Uh, welcome Tony Northrop to

Rall talk. Thanks for having me on, Jared. I'm honored. Yes. Tony's very honored to be on. He hasn't been on. We actually talked about this right before we started. He said he's never been on Rawl Talk. I'm pretty sure Stephen and I had him on. Now, we did an interview about something because I remember sitting at my desk and doing it, but I don't know if it was an official raw talk or not.

I don't recall.

Anyway, let me get this out of the way.

Stephen is on vacation.

So I don't do audio engineering.

That's not my jam.

We're using Riverside to do this, which is what we normally record in, but as a backup.

So hopefully everything sounds right. Steven's not here

to make sure he is the audio genius. And Tony's in New York City. So if you hear extra noise in in

Tony's side, that's because he's in New York City and it's loud. It is loud here. Yeah, it makes

recording anything extremely challenging. But I do, I do see you put up

some acoustic panels. Did you get that approved by your landlord? He generally gave me

carte blanche to hang stuff up. And also, it's often easier to beg forgiveness than ask for

mission. So yeah.

So, but audio,

audio panels are definitely going to help when, uh, when, when, when we're doing all this type of audio. So it's been a while, well, Tony and I talk. We met up a few weeks, a couple months ago, actually, I think for lunch. Yeah, we've seen each other a couple of times. Yeah. ran into you at build, went to dinner a few times, you know, not the normal stuff. You know what the best thing is? We don't have to, we don't talk about the stuff that we're going to talk about today because I think it would cause some, some, uh, some strife if we did. Oh, okay. You're getting controversial today. This isn't going to be one of our regular

friendly conversations. You're taking it head on. No, no, no. We have regular friendly conversations

when we're not here. And when we're talking this stuff, we don't agree on many, many of things,

I think. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And I, yeah, many of things, I think. Yeah.

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