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The Glenn Show

Rav Arora – Race and Crime after the Summer of 2020

The Glenn Show

Glenn Loury

Politics, Society & Culture, News

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2021

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

This week on TGS we’ve got Rav Arora. He’s a compelling writer on race matters in the US. He’s also a college undergraduate, though it would be a mistake to underestimate him. He’s already published in a number of widely read outlets, including the New York Post, Quillette, and City Journal. He’s also got a Substack called Noble Truths, where he writes about psychedelics, meditation, and cultural trends.

I begin by inquiring into Rav’s intellectual background. What is this young guy from Canada doing writing about race and crime in the US, anyway? Rav talks about how the summer of 2020 led him to rethink his views and begin writing about them for the public. Rav is quite critical of the way that race, crime, and policing are covered in the US media, but he’s got a nuanced view of things. He talks about why he thinks we need police reform and also more police on the streets. We then move on to a discussion of systemic racism. I say it’s not inconceivable that a police department with a disproportionately high number of black officers could perpetuate racial inequality, though Rav doesn’t seem quite convinced that’s the case. From there, we discuss the misguided claim that violent crime in some black communities is driven solely by poverty. When the question of genetic factors in crime rates comes up, I don’t demure. I don’t know whether there actually is a genetic component, but I’m not ready to dismiss it out of hand. And we round out the discussion by touching on alternatives to incarceration, the increasing earning power of Asian American women, and the recent historic rise in US homicide rates.

Rav and I covered a lot of ground in this one. He’s a vital new voice, one I’ll be paying close attention to—I hope you will, too.

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0:00 How Rav got his start on the crime, policing, and identity politics beat

10:33 Why is a Canadian college student writing about race and crime in the US?

21:30 Rav: We need police reform but also more police in black communities

31:34 Will hiring more black police officers make police departments “less racist”?

43:26 Glenn: It’s ridiculous to say that violent crime is driven only by poverty

50:04 Is it possible that racial disparities in crime rates have a genetic basis?

55:09 Are there any effective alternatives to prison?

1:00:52 Why Asian American women are out-earning white men

1:10:23 What’s behind the historic rise in homicide rates?

Rav’s Substack, Noble Truths

Aldon Morris’s Scientific American essay, “From Civil Rights to Black Lives Matter”

Rav’s Quillette piece, “A Peculiar Kind of Racist Patriarchy”

Urban Labs’ Becoming a Man program

David Frum’s 2016 interview with Barry Latzer about crime waves

Last year’s famous study of the “Minneapolis effect”

The Marshall Project’s analysis of race and victimization in 2020



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Transcript

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0:00.0

Okay, we're underway. This is the Glenn show. I'm Glenn Lowry. Find the Glenn show at GlennLowry.substac.com and also find it at YouTube. My channel is Glenn Lowry show at YouTube.

0:12.0

And on the blogging hits platform, Robert writes Enterprise blogging hits.tv. I'm with Rob Aurora, who is a precocious writer, a budding journalist, a critic, a social critic.

0:29.0

A young fellow sitting in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, who can be found in the pages of the New York Post.

0:41.0

Quilette.com. Most recently, the city journal, that's the organ of the Manhattan Institute, writing about social issues, any quality, race, identity, political correctness.

0:55.0

I don't know, Rob, you can fill in the blanks here. But tell people who you are and what you're about and how it is that we come to be talking to each other here at the Glenn show.

1:09.0

Yeah, so I'm a journalist based in Vancouver, B.C. and I'm an undergraduate student studying, for a while I was studying mostly criminology, but over the last six months I've taken a bit of a B tour.

1:24.0

And now I'm studying esoteric, Eastern philosophy and Buddhism, neuroscience stuff, meditation, so that's kind of a separate interest, which I'm also exploring in my substac publication that I just started on meditation.

1:38.0

And psychedelics and spirituality and that kind of thing, that's the ravrorah.substac.com, if anybody's interested. But my primary focus in my writing and my commentary is on crime, murders, homicides, stories that I think that are not being portrayed enough in the mainstream media.

2:01.0

And so I've noticed this massive, massive deficiency, if you will, in the media of actually putting the spotlight on these stories of crime, societal neglect, communities that are caught up in this vicious cycle of crime, poverty, lawlessness, lack of police.

2:25.0

These issues were just always on my mind in high school forever reason. I was always interested in crime in general, always watching the crime shows and reading detective novels and that kind of thing.

2:36.0

And then once I graduated high school, I just started researching and reading about this more.

2:45.0

Watching the Glenn show pretty often and reading Thomas Soul following Coleman Hughes. And then when the George Floyd incident happened, which is very tragic, then at that time I started writing and then I wrote a couple of articles on identity politics and white privilege and defunding the police.

3:05.0

And those articles did really, really well. And so from there, what was supposed to be just a one off article turned into more of a regular contribution scheme where every month I was writing a couple of pieces and writing on these stories that I think are very important.

3:19.0

So here we are, it's been, I guess a year and a half and I've just been consistently writing about issues pertaining to crime, policing, criminal justice, and also identity politics and racial justice issues.

3:37.0

How old are you rough? 20.

3:40.0

Well, that's pretty young by my experience of people in the world of op-eds and essays and magazines and stuff like that. When accounts for your pro, how do we say this? Your precautions, precocity.

3:54.0

I don't even know how to say the word for being so precautions. How do you find how do you end up with such an active pin and such a lively mind? It would appear.

4:06.0

Well, I don't have the answer to that question directly, but I mean, I've just been.

4:13.0

How'd you get started? Who encouraged you? You know, what was your first piece about, you know, who reads your stuff before you sit it into the editor?

4:26.0

Yeah, yeah. Well, I already briefly explained that with when the Black Lives Matter protests were happening last year, that's what initially inspired me to start writing about these issues.

4:36.0

I felt like we were going in a totally misguided direction with respect to, with respect to racial dynamics and also the dynamics of the criminal justice system.

4:48.0

That's when I thought, now would be a good time to write about this, and my first piece was on white privilege and the fallacies of white privilege, breaking down group disparities, why certain groups perform others and what could be some of those explanations in terms of behavior and culture and history and economics.

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