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Welcome to Rationally Speaking, the podcast where we explore the borderlands between reason and nonsense.

I am your host, Massimo Filucci, and with me, as always, is my co-host, Julia Galef.

Actually, Julie is not with me.

She's not in the Greenwich Village Studios where we usually taped podcasts.

She is on the other side of the country.

Where are you, Julie, exactly?

I'm in Berkeley, California.

And what the heck are you doing there?

I've been working to launch a new organization devoted to teaching and promoting rationality.

It sounds like a good idea.

Yeah, so I just finished running a four-day workshop on rationality where I taught classes on thought experiments and uncovering cashed beliefs and asking yourself what the evidence is for the things that you think you believe, which is quite a blast.

So hopefully I've recovered from the four days I spent without sleep and will be coherent today.

Sounds like a good topic for a future episode, actually.

Yeah.

But today instead we're going to talk about something else, right?

Yes, I'm very excited.

I've been looking forward to this episode for a while.

And that would be?

Ah, so today we have a special guest.

Also joining us remotely, Patricia Churchland is a well-known philosopher who's made major

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