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Rationally Speaking #234 - Dylan Matthews on "Global poverty has fallen, but what should we conclude from that?"

Rationally Speaking Podcast

New York City Skeptics

Society & Culture, Skepticism, Science, Philosophy

4.6787 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2019

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

The global poverty rate has fallen significantly over the last few decades. But there's a heated debate, between people like psychologist Steven Pinker and anthropologist Jason Hickel, over how to view that fact. Is it a triumph for capitalism? Should we celebrate it, or lament the fact that rich countries aren't doing more to close the poverty gap faster? Vox journalist Dylan Matthews explains the disagreement. He and Julia discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each side's argument.

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0:00.0

Today's episode of Rationally Speaking is sponsored by Givewell.

0:03.5

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0:09.3

Givewell spends thousands of hours every year vetting and analyzing nonprofits so that it can produce a list of charity recommendations that are backed by rigorous evidence.

0:17.9

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0:20.6

The New York Times has

0:21.3

referred to Givewell as, quote, the spreadsheet method of giving. Givewell's recommendations are

0:26.2

for donors who are interested in having a high altruistic return on investment in their giving.

0:30.7

Its current recommended charities fight malaria, treat intestinal parasites, provide vitamin A supplements,

0:35.9

and give cash to very poor people.

0:39.6

Check them out at give well.org.

0:57.9

Welcome to rationally speaking, the podcast where we explore the borderlands between reason and nonsense.

1:02.6

I'm your host, Julia Galef, and my guest today is Dylan Matthews.

1:15.7

Dylan is senior correspondent for Vox and the head writer for Future Perfect, which is a subsection of Vox devoted to ways to do the most good and looking at the news through an effective altruist lens.

1:23.2

And Dylan is, as of recently, the host of the Future Perfect podcast about philanthropy and ways people try to do good.

1:25.9

It's now in its just beginning its second season.

1:29.4

Dylan, welcome to rationally speaking, or welcome back, I should say.

1:31.1

You were on our show a few years ago.

1:35.1

Many years ago, but yes, no, I'm grateful to be back.

1:39.8

Yeah, that earlier episode was about your experience donating a kidney and the science and sort of ethical philosophy around that choice.

1:44.6

It was great.

1:45.6

We should link to that for any guests who missed it.

1:48.3

Yeah, it was a fun time.

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