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I'm your host, Julia Galef, and I am taping this podcast live at the Northeast Conference on Science and Skepticism.

Say hi!

Hey!

I am very excited to introduce today's guest who's here with me.

I have Professor Robert Kurzban, who is a professor of psychology at the University of Pennsylvania,

where he specializes in evolutionary psychology. And one of his books, excellently titled

Why Everyone Else is a Hypocrat, has been such a great title, Rob. It's been very formative

in my thinking about rationality and has shaped a lot of my work and my talk that I give to people over the years. So this conversation has been a long time in the works.

Rob is also the co-author of the hidden agenda of the political mind, which is a book that I talked about in, I guess, my most recent episode of the podcast with Jason Whedon.

And Rob, no pressure, but Jason was an excellent guest.

So the bar is just that high.

That's all I'm saying.

So Rob, welcome to the show and to Nexus.

Thanks for having me.

It's pleasure be here.

So, as I hinted at, the thing that I'm most excited to talk to you about is why everyone else is a hypocrite.

I thought we could just jump right into your thesis.

Maybe by talking about what motivated it.

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