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Thank you. For more information, please visit us at NYCSceptics.org. Welcome to Rationally Speaking, the podcast where we explore the borderlands between reason and nonsense.

I'm your host, Julia Galeff, and with me today is our guest,

Professor Eric Schwitzgable. Eric is a professor of philosophy at the University of California

Riverside. He's the author of the book's Perplexities of Consciousness and Describing

Inner Experience Proponent Meets Skeptic. He's also the author of the excellent philosophy blog, Splintered Mind,

which I've been a fan of for years. Eric, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me on.

So great to have you. So one of the things that Eric is most famous for is his work studying

the moral behavior of moral philosophers. So examining the question, do people whose job it is

to study the question of how to behave morally, do those people actually behave more morally

than the average person or than the average person in a sort of comparative reference class,

like other professors, for example? And hopefully it's not too much of a spoiler

to say, no, they kind of don't. And what we're going to explore in today's episode is, well,

first of all, you know, how did you reach that conclusion? Eric, what was your methodology? What

were you measuring? And then, you know, what should we conclude from that

fact? What does that tell us about moral philosophy or, you know, human psychology or whatnot?

So does that sound like a good place to jump in, just sort of explaining how you came to this

conclusion? Yeah, sure. Let's do it. Maybe I'll give just a little bit of background. So I've

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