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The Lawfare Podcast

Rational Security: The “Small World After All” Edition

The Lawfare Podcast

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Diplomacy, International Relations, Current Events, Government, Politics, Intelligence, Law, Rule Of Law, Military, Constitutional Law, History, National Security, News, International Law, Foreign Policy, Terrorism

4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

This week on Rational Security, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by favorite guest Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett to hash through the week's big national security news stories, including:

  • “Another One Bites the Dust.” This past weekend, an American drone strike successfully killed yet another major terrorist leader—this time al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri—in downtown Kabul, while apparently avoiding any civilian casualties or significant collateral damage. What does the strike tell us about the Biden administration's counterterrorism strategy and the role it plays in his broader global agenda?
  • “Maybe He Just Mixed Up His St. Petersburgs.” In Florida, the Justice Department has indicted Russian agent Aleksandr Viktorovich Ionov for engaging in an array of political activities on behalf of fringe political candidates and organizations, with the alleged goal of promoting political instability at the Russian government's behest. What light does this indictment shed on Russian interference in American politics?
  • “The Bully Cockpit.” Over reported objections from the Biden administration, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has flown to Taiwan, making her the most senior U.S. official to visit the hotly contested island in more than two decades and raising China's ire at what many say is a sensitive moment. Is her trip helpful or foolhardy? And what does it tell us about Congress's role in U.S. foreign relations?


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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings,

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rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath.

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I'm Benjamin Pollard with an episode of Rational Security for August 7th, 2022.

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For today's episode, the team at LawFair decided to cross post this week's episode of Rational Security,

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a podcast hosted by Scott R. Anderson, Quintet Jurassic, and Alan Rosenstein,

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in which they cover the week's big national security news stories.

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Today's Rational Security episode is entitled, The Small World After All Edition.

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In the episode, Alan, Quintet, and Scott set down in Natalie or Pet

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to discuss the drone strike that killed Aiman Alzawa-Hari,

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a Justice Department indictment of a Russian agent, and house Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan.

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This is Rational Security.

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I just want to say that I worked out my schedule for today perfectly,

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so that I could record in studio for another podcast,

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and then also record in studio with two out of three of you,

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and then you all abandoned me.

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So here I am all alone.

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But you sound marvelous.

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We just wanted to make sure you would sound really good, Quintet.

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