Rational Security: The “Five Dollar Footlong-Gate” Edition
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 23 July 2023
⏱️ 67 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
This week on Rational Security, Alan, Quinta, and Scott got together to NOT talk about that ONE big story that's not quite ripe yet. (You know the one. It involves sandwiches.) But they did chat through some of the week's other big national security news, including:
- “Against the Grain.” Russia backed out of the Turkey-facilitated Black Sea Grain Initiative this past week, which had allowed much needed Ukrainian grain to arrive in markets, largely in the developing world. Now not only is that avenue cut off, but Russian forces are attacking grain facilities in Odessa, threatening the global food supply. How does this brutal act fit into Russia’s global strategy? And how should the United States and its allies respond?
- “It’s a War on War.” The culture war is now taking on actual war, as House Republicans have passed a National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) laden with provisions that target Defense Department policies relating to abortion, DEI, and LGBTQ+ issues—measures that are certain not to make it through the Democrat-controlled Senate and may end up putting the annual bill at risk of not being passed at all. How big is the risk of such an impasse? What could it mean for U.S. national security?
- “Coups are Like Pancakes.” Earlier this week, the New York Times published a report about how former officials in the Trump administration are declaring the first Trump administration a mulligan and outlining plans to dramatically expand presidential power and purge the executive branch if and when Trump returns to the White House for a second time. How seriously should we take these proposals? And what would they mean for democracy if implemented?
Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair |
| 0:07.2 | podcast become a material supporter of LawFair at patreon.com slash LawFair, that's patreon.com slash |
| 0:16.8 | LawFair. Also check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair |
| 0:25.6 | no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.6 | I'm Gea Cokatakis, intern at LawFair with an episode of Rational Security for July 23rd, |
| 0:39.4 | 2023. For today's episode, the team at LawFair decided to cross-post this week's episode of |
| 0:46.2 | Rational Security, a podcast hosted by Scott R. Anderson, went to Jurassic and Alan Rosenstein, |
| 0:52.7 | in which they cover the week's big national security news stories. Today's episode is |
| 0:57.9 | entitled The $5 Foot Long Gate Edition. This week, Anderson, Jurassic and Rosenstein sat |
| 1:05.6 | down to discuss Russia's withdrawal from the Black Sea grain initiative, House Republicans |
| 1:10.1 | passage of the National Defense Authorization Act that targets defense department policies |
| 1:15.5 | relating to abortion, DEI, and LGBTQ plus issues. Former Trump administration officials |
| 1:22.7 | plans to expand presidential power if Trump returns to the White House and more. This is |
| 1:29.1 | Rational Security. |
| 1:34.7 | So Scott, I have reason to believe that you are uniquely situated to provide insight |
| 1:40.5 | onto the ongoing investigation that's being conducted by a special counsel, the Wizard |
| 1:46.1 | himself, Jack Smith, into Donald Trump. Because you, I hear, have eaten at the subway that |
| 1:54.7 | is at the center of this week's national conversation. What does it all mean, Scott? Tell us |
| 2:01.0 | please. |
| 2:02.0 | Oh, it's a big sign. It's a sign that Jack Smith is hungry for justice that he appreciates |
| 2:09.0 | a good value. |
| 2:10.0 | You know, anybody who has worked at any of the, like, city or federal court has in DC is |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Lawfare Institute, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of The Lawfare Institute and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

