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The Lawfare Podcast

Rational Security: The “Even Stephan” Edition

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2023

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

This week on Rational Security, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by UVA Law Professor Paul Stephan to talk through the close-calls in this week’s national security news, including:

  • “Xi’s All That.” Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Beijing this past week, for a long delayed sit-down with President Xi Jinping to try and de-escalate the two superpowers’ tense relationship. Was this meeting a smart move or a giveaway? And what should we make of President Biden calling the Chinese leader a “dictator” shortly after Blinken’s return?
  • “Adverse REPOssession.” The question of what to do with the $300 billion in Russia-related assets frozen by the United States and its allies has reemerged, with members of Congress recently introducing a new version of the REPO Act that would seize those assets and make them available as reparations for Ukraine, among other purposes. Is seizure the right way to handle these assets? What challenges and risks might such a dramatic step encounter?
  • “Robo Joe.” President Biden joined a summit of leaders in the AI industry this week as part of his administration’s ongoing effort to seriously engage the policy challenges raised by AI technology. But what are the realistic prospects for regulation? And what form should it take?


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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

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no bull and the aftermath.

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I'm Geo Kokatakis, intern at LawFair with an episode of rational security for June 25,

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2023.

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For today's episode, the team at LawFair decided to cross-post this week's episode of rational

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security, a podcast hosted by Scott R. Anderson, Quintet Jurassic, and Alan Rosenstein, in which

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they cover the week's big national security news stories.

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Today's episode is entitled The Even Stephen Edition.

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This week, Rosenstein, Jurassic, and Anderson were joined by Paul Stephen to discuss the week's

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close calls and national security news, including Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken's meeting

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with President Xi Jinping in Beijing, what to do with $300 billion of frozen Russian-related

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assets, President Biden's attendance at a summit of AI industry leaders, and more.

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This is rational security.

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Scott, I am curious.

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What are your best colorblind stories?

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There aren't any good ones.

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Most memorable.

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Most memorable.

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A playing set lives of Katan and people thinking I was chronically cheating because I've been

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