Rational Security: The “CesTar” Edition
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 28 January 2024
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
This week on Rational Security, just Scott was joined for a Bizarro-world episode with guests Lawfare Senior Editor and Brookings Senior Fellow Molly Reynolds (back for a second episode in a row!) and Lawfare Legal Fellow Anna Bower! They talked over some of the week’s big stories, including:
- “Two Houses, Divided Against Themselves...” The fate of key national security legislation—including the Ukraine supplemental and border legislation—is increasingly coming down to the increasingly dysfunctional dynamics within and between the two chambers of Congress. What does this tell us about how our most democratic institution is operating?
- “Fani, Be Tender With My Love.” In recent weeks, Fulton Co. Prosecutor Fani Willis’s case against former President Trump and his associates has been endangered by rumors that she is engaged in a longstanding affair with subordinate prosecutor Nathan Wade—and that she extended the investigation to secure more salary for him. But is the story more smoke than fire?
- “Carpe Seize ‘Em.” The Biden administration has officially come out in qualified support of seizing Russia’s frozen assets to compensate Ukraine, and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is scheduled to consider authorizing legislation this week. Is this finally a route to accountability? Or do the associated risks outweigh the benefits?
For object lessons, Molly endorsed David Grann’s latest book, “The Wager.” Scott shouted out listener Paul whose birthday party he inadvertently crashed this past weekend, and urged other listeners to come say hi if they see him in the wild! And Anna urged anyone seeking a divorce in the state of Georgia to seek out the fine people at the Cobb County courthouse (who also make a lovely salad).
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| 1:15.0 | For today's episode, the team at Law Fair decided to cross post this week's episode of Rational Security, a Roundtable podcast featuring Quinta Jurassic, Scott R Anderson, and Alan Z |
| 1:25.2 | Rosenstein in which they discussed the week's top national security news stories. |
| 1:29.2 | Today's episode is entitled, It's the Cestar Edition. In the episode, Anderson was joined by |
| 1:34.9 | Molly Reynolds and Anna Bauer to discuss the fate of key national security legislation, |
| 1:39.5 | increasingly coming down to the dysfunctional dynamic between two chambers of Congress. |
| 1:44.4 | Whether Fulton co-district attorney Fanny Willis's case against former President Trump has been |
| 1:48.8 | endangered by rumors, the Biden administration support of the seizure of Russian frozen assets to |
| 1:54.3 | compensate Ukraine and more. This is rational security. |
| 1:58.1 | Scott, tell us about your bathroom renovation. |
| 2:03.2 | It is hell on wheels. |
| 2:05.2 | Not having a functional bathroom on your sleeping floor when you have a toddler |
| 2:09.2 | is a challenge to say at least. |
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