4.6 • 16K Ratings
🗓️ 20 August 2020
⏱️ 131 minutes
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Michael Shellenberger is an environmental activist, TIME’s Hero of the Environment, an advisor to the U.N.’s Panel on Climate Change, and author of the new book "Apocalypse Never: How Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All." He joins us for an honest conversation about the devastating impact that wind and solar energy infrastructure is having on Earth's ecology, the sources of energy we can safely and efficiently utilize, and facts vs fiction behind everything from the rise in extreme weather events to plastics pollution. Follow Michael on Twitter at @ShellenbergerMD.
Episode Timeline:
1:50 Recent Testimony at the Committee on the Climate Crisis
8:00 Climate Fatalism and the Myth We’re All Going to Die in 12 Years
21:00 Climate Change Collusion + Backroom deals
32:00 Is Solar That Great?
42:00 California and the Grid 101
1:02:00 What about Wind?
1:13:00 Nuclear Proliferation
1:23:00 Why do People Hate Nuclear?
1:33:00 Extreme Weather Events
1:47:00: Plastic Straws and Plastic Waste
1:56:00 Recycling
1:58:00 Farting Cows and Meat Eating
2:04:00 Final Thoughts
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| 0:25.0 | Okay, we're back. Welcome back everybody. |
| 0:29.0 | It's surprising that we haven't really done a podcast on climate change, on the environment and all that. |
| 0:34.0 | Because it's certainly one of my big priorities in the house. |
| 0:37.0 | I am the author of a bill called the New Energy Frontier. |
| 0:42.0 | Specifically, that bill looks at research and development in the carbon capture space. |
| 0:47.0 | But I apply the New Energy Frontier label to a much broader rational environmentalism where |
| 0:56.0 | we don't have to destroy our economy, but we can also think about our environment. |
| 1:01.0 | It's really important for discussion for Republicans to lead on because generally speaking, |
| 1:07.0 | I think our solutions are always the right ones. |
| 1:10.0 | But with sometimes we do have to agree that what the left wants, maybe isn't all that bad. |
| 1:16.0 | It's just that the solutions that they propose to fix those problems are, well, maybe wrong. |
| 1:24.0 | That's a nice way of putting it. |
| 1:26.0 | So I wanted to bring on an environmentalist. |
| 1:29.0 | Somebody's been an activist for a long time and also was recently at a hearing in the house. |
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