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Welcome to the Eric Mataxas show. I shouldn't tell you this but Eric hired someone who sounds just like him to host today's show

But since I'm the announcer they told me so I am telling you don't be fooled the real Eric's in jail

Welcome hey there folks welcome there from a taxes show

American taxes. This is the show. I talked to

Fun people interesting people all kinds of people and today very excited

I actually have in my hand a book called start where you are and that should be easy because you're already there

Start where you are how God meets you in your mess

Loves you through it and leads you out of it. Who's the author?

Roshan Copeland. He's my guest. Did you know that? Roshan welcome to program great to have you Eric

Thanks for having me. I'm so humbled to be here and looking for a time together

Thank you for endorsing the book

Well, listen the message of your book. It's why I have you on the program as well

I just think it's important and I think your story is important how you got there and so for people who don't know who you are

now you are

A minister of the gospel you're doing all kinds of stuff

But I want to I want to get to your story of how you got to where you are because when you say in the title of your book

Start where you are you know in your mess

You definitely were in a mess. So tell us you know your your life story up to up to where

God comes into it like where where did you grow up? What was it like you know

Tell talk to us about that good deal. So Eric I grew up in a military family. Um, I was you know the kid that actually you know

Was was a kid that loved you know one

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