It was just kind of like, you know, I look at him saying, you know, let's go, man, it's,

you know, nine and a half.

It's time to, it's your time to roll and he'd look at me and say, need about another

minute and a half coach.

And I'd be like, Jesus Christ, I still hope we're in the game here.

You know what?

Another minute and a half.

And then he'd go out there and he might even wait to, you know, he'd go up at a minute

and a half and the ball wouldn't go dead.

And now we'd be down to six and a half and man with that six and a half, be amazed.

I mean, you know, be like every style or key steel and offensive rebound, a three, a bucket,

you know, just like, like he knew exactly how hard he wanted to play at that moment and

how much was in the tank to be able to do that.

And he just would gauge that every now and then and and very, you know, what was going

on.

That was Raptor's hip coach Nick Nurse talking about his time with Kauai.

Leonard, we got like 30 plus minutes with him.

Why does everybody have him as one of the best coaches in the NBA.

Scott Graves founder of Raising Cain, Chicken Fingers, an amazing story out of Bat Rouge and

an open monologue and life advice.

We have a lot to get to on today's podcast.

So I'll try to make this brief off the top.

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