Boeing's actions are extremely concerning from like a corporate governance perspective

from do they really have the safety you know protocols in place that being said I have so many friends who will ride to the

airport in the back of an Uber without a seatbelt and then they get scared to

board the plane. You're on a plane with train professionals. Tell me another

mode of transportation that's perfect. There is none.

That's Brian Kelly, founder of Travel Media Platform The Points Guide.

I wanted to talk to Brian to better understand one of the wildest non-pandemic travel summers ever.

More people are flying, airports are packed, planes are packed, and yet

airline businesses are struggling. Southwest is doing away with its distinctive

seat-yourself system, Spirit is moving away from discounting,

and of course we had the massive crowd strike outage

that hit all airlines, but particularly Delta.

Plus there's Boeing safety concerns, whistleblower suicide a new CEO coming in so

what is going on? Brian sheds light on how airlines and travelers are adjusting

to this chaotic market and along the way he shares some of the travel industry's best kept secrets and insider perks.

It's a journey worth taking so let's get into it.

I'm Bob Safian, and this is rapid response.

I'm Bob Safian and I'm here with Brian Kelly, founder of Travel Resource The Points

Guy. Brian, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. Good to be here

in Notin Airport. Yeah, I was I was wondering whether you'd be

dialing in from a plane. I try to minimize it. Well, this summer travel season has been quite dramatic.

And the first thing I wanted to ask you about was Boeing,

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