Welcome back. It's the big blue banter. New York Giants football podcast. I'm Dan Schneier.

Join, as always my co-ist Nick Vallado. Tonight, we're here to vent a little bit, recap a really pitiful, disgusting loss by the New York Giants, the New York Jets.

One of the worst losses I've seen. I said collapse-wise, it was probably the worst I've seen since the Sean Jackson game.

Matt Dodge, infamous game now. Different circumstances, of course, end of the season, higher-scoring game. That was. And the Giants were playing for the division. This is obviously they weren't playing for anything too real. I mean, they were playing to get back into the wildcard mix, if you want to call it that with this team that they have out there. But it's just a way that they went about this lost, Nick, that was just really unbelievable, truly since obviously the game's ended. We've seen what we've seen. You posted something about Dexter Lawrence getting held on one of the plays that side of the game, which was true. I looked at it. I mean, this type of stuff happens. then obviously those who haven't seen it yet, but are probably going to learn this, but I think most of you have is that the NFL messed up too because they weren't supposed to let the Jets snap the ball to where they could spite or weren't supposed to let the jet center snap the ball without the official touching it to set it before the last spike that was within a few seconds for the game tying field goal at the end of regulation. So some messups on the NFL's part. But in the end, like this is just like I said after the game, Nick, and I'll start here and I'll turn this over to you. But this just felt very Joe judging to me, this whole game, everything about it. The last two weeks, you even text, you texted me last week, like, oh, my God, we're not going to collapse. This would be the biggest collapse ever in that Washington game. If they went up 14-0, 14-7, game ended 14-7. I mean, this was that exact replica of a game, essentially, near collapse. This time it actually did collapse. The Giants didn't even run an offense for most of this game. This is going to be back to just, it's just amazing. It's impossible for me to watch this team right now, Nick, and think that they're anywhere close to competing for a Super Bowl. I'll start by saying that because it's just pathetic that they've gotten to this point. And I don't want to hear injuries as an excuse anymore because this O-Line was more than competent today.

Obviously, it's like, look, you don't want to have DeVito do some things out there. I get it. But this guy can run RPO, right? You can just have him run RPO. He's a college court. He played at Illinois. He knows RPO. Run some fucking RPO. So you get an advantage in the box on a couple plays. and he could rip a slant occasionally or he could pull it and run it like and no that's what they

did on the touchdown so So great, they did it once. But it just like throw the ball occasionally, a slant here, a slant there. It just doesn't have to be like that. And, you know, we can get into the decisions, some of the decisions, Nick. I have the stat up here from our buddy Doug Analytics.

You know, people can make of it what they want.

Let me see what it was.

Yeah.

The Giants offense actually against all now I lost my like things.

Never mind.

But the Giants had converted the third most third and one or fourth and one conversions in the NFL, Nick, prior to this game.

69%. Obviously on that fourth and one, they decided to go for the field goal, despite Graham Ganoe, clearly not at his best. Like, I think it's obvious that Ganoe, for whatever reason, missed an early, missed a chip shot last week with Dairod, missed another field girl earlier today, and then they put him out there again. And so like sometimes situationally that was confusing.

Really, though, you know, it's all over the place, Nick. I'll let you go here and we can try to spit ball off of each other. Yeah, Graham Ganoe, he's been missing more kicks than we're used to seeing recently. And he's got a knee injury. And he said, oh, it's nothing to do with the knee injury. but look man this is one of the better kickers of our generation he's out there missing these kicks but if we're just going to focus on that Brian dable man that decision all you got to do is pick up one yard I get that the giants were stuffed on the previous two runs after pick after Seikwan picked up six yards and it looked like he kind of went down after picking up six yards and left a little bit of meat on the bone. And Brian Daebel, look, he's been Uber conservative. A lot of it has to do with the personnel. I think Brian Daibel is the type of coach who is going to, who doesn't necessarily have a true philosophy is going to stick to the context of the game. And in part, sometimes I appreciate that. But in this case, man, look, you had a 97, according to ESPN

analytics, you had a 97.8% chance to win this football game after Kvon Tibido, sacked Zach Wilson

on 4th and 10. Great play by Kvon Tibido. We'll get into him a little bit later. And somehow,

you just fall apart. And then the defense that was so good earlier in the game throughout the entire game

gave up two consecutive 29-yard completions to the new york jets putting them in field goal range

and one thing i'll say this i'm not 100 i'm not entirely sure so i could be wrong here but i'm

i've heard that all you have to do was touch the football in those quick situations with the ref. I heard that. I don't think the ref touched the ball. No, he does. He runs over and he just taps it, but he didn't set it. The center set it. Now that's where I'm like, oh, I'm not really 100% sure about this situation. I just wanted to kind of put that out there. But man, this was one of the more Joe judge type of games we've

seen. The Giants finished with, I think, a net of minus nine passing yards because they

were sacked like four times on 14 passing attempts. Minus nine. That's the worst since the Jake

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