You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs and piece by piece

to the story of how they remain.

My name is Tao Wynne.

This episode contains explicit language.

Rafael Sidiq is a Grammy-winning songwriter, producer and artist from Oakland, California.

He was the lead singer of the legendary 90s R&B group, Tony-Tony-Tony, and as a producer,

he's worked with DeAngelo, TLC, Wynne Houston, Solange Noles, Mary J. Blash and John Legend.

In August 2019, Rafael released his fifth solo album, Jimmy Lee, which is named for his

late older brother.

In this episode, he breaks down a song from the album he made with his nephew, Dylan Wiggins,

called a King's Fall.

My name is Rafael Sidiq.

Actually wrote to the song with my nephew, Dylan Wiggins.

Rafael is my uncle, but I call Rafael Ray.

Everybody in my family, they all call him Ray.

What's up?

I'm Dylan Wiggins, aka Sir Dylan from Oakland, California.

He's been living in Los Angeles now for maybe like six or seven years, and we work in

a lot of music together, and he actually brought me to track King's Fall.

The first idea that came to me before I made that song was just this idea of these chords

I had on the guitar.

I was going for, I would say, an oldest, writing vibe, something that just sounded like

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