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Mr Obnoxious

Raoul Pal on Bitcoin as a Global Recession Hedge - WBD140

Mr Obnoxious

Peter McCormack

Technology, News, Politics, Money, Investing, Finance, Bitcoin

4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2019

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Location: Skype
Date: Tuesday, 20th July
Project: Real Vision Group
Role: Co-Founder & CEO

"Chancellor on the brink of second bailout for banks" the Times headline on 3rd Jan 2009 and the now infamous words included in the Bitcoin Genesis Block. This was Satoshi Nakamoto's message to the world as the Bitcoin protocol launched. Many believe this was also a carefully chosen message to establish Bitcoin’s role.

The U.K.'s Chancellor of the Exchequer was about to bail out the U.K.'s failing banks for a second time. At the same time, Satoshi was releasing Bitcoin into the world as a way of controlling your own wealth, and bypassing the seemingly broken banking system. Now 10 years later, the world's economy is again in a fragile state with many economists predicting another global economic recession.

Bitcoin is seen as the antithesis to traditional finance, and if the global economy does turn to a recession, people may seek solace in Bitcoin as a hedge against legacy markets.

Raoul Pal is a leading macroeconomist who has worked for Goldman Sachs, managed hedge funds and advised to some of the largest funds in the world. He now runs Real Vision, a digital content platform with the aim of getting leading economist traders and hedge fund managers from across the globe to share their thoughts with everyone. Not just the select few.

In this interview, we discuss the possibility of a global financial crash, how likely it is that Bitcoin will become a safe haven, Bitcoins volatility, Brexit, as well as:

  • How to get people to care about Bitcoin

  • The 2008 Global Financial Crisis

  • Economic boom and bust cycles

  • Bitcoins volatility being the sign of a free market

  • How to protect our capital if there is another recession

  • How the banking system will look in the future

  • The threats from automation and AI

  • How behavioural economics is changing the world

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the What Bit

0:02.0

the What Bit-Did podcast.

0:05.0

Hello there from Vietnam, how are you all?

0:09.0

You're well.

0:10.0

I'm on the final leg of my holiday.

0:12.0

I'm in Ho Chi Min City, I'm in Saigon, and I'm going to be heading back to the UK tomorrow.

0:16.4

It's been an amazing break, but also an amazing experience just to not only see two beautiful countries

0:22.1

and meet some amazing people, but to see how money is used

0:24.5

differently in other countries especially in my experience in Cambodia where they are using

0:28.7

two currencies. So yeah a great experience but looking forward to getting back to the UK.

0:33.2

Anyway, welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast, which is brought to you by Krakhan, the best

0:37.4

exchange for Bitcoin traders.

0:39.4

This week I've got an interview with Raal Powell from Real Vision, which is a monster.

0:44.0

And this was recorded a day after Stefan Livera released his show with Raoul.

0:47.6

I didn't know Stefan had done an interview with Raoul.

0:50.3

So a big thanks to him, as this certainly helped shape shape my show helped me research what I was doing

0:54.9

But before we get into that let's hear from my amazing sponsors so today's show is brought to you by block-fi and it's approaching the end of the month

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despite all the initial questions around the BlockFi interest accounts they are

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delivering. I know a few of you have taken out interest accounts how you're

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finding it. I love that my Bitcoin is working for me every month. I find

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it really cool to get these interest payments. So yes, with a BlockFi interest account, you can

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