On today's episode of the Audible, Bruce and I talk about our top 25 coaches rankings that went up on The Athletic this week.

And we answer your questions in the mailbag.

That's coming up next on the Audible, presented by Trader Joe's.

I'm Stuart Mandel joined, as by Bruce Feldman and we have a special

episode for you tied to a special set of columns that we put out on the athletic on Thursday.

Stu, I think this argument that we have been having for our top 25 coaches.

I started doing it last year.

You've been doing it for many years.

And I feel like it kind of grew out of you would post this.

And then I, as I'm not always proud to do, but I feel like I nitpick your stuff.

And I did.

And I feel like the part where it started was I think you had at one

point Clay Hilton in the top 15 and no that was never that never ever happened but top 25 somewhere

and I think we went down the list and you were like well you would have them in your top 40 wouldn't

you and I was like I don't know and I feel like that was like the put up them in your top 40, wouldn't you? And I was like, I don't know.

And I feel like that was like the put up or shut up, so I needed to do my list. I do remember that now. Yeah, you would constantly go on there and criticize my coach's list. I said, well, why don't you do one then? And we did them both for the first time last year, and now we have one this year and i think you know before we get into

some specific names i think we both noticed that what i refer to is kind of a brain drain in the coaching

profession right now because there are so many guys who just in the last couple years two years ago right

you would have had urban mire in your top 10 Chris Peterson in your top 10 I know

I had Mark d'antoneo in my top 10 and none of them are in college football anymore you've got other

people like Gary Patterson and david shaw who have have been very highly ranked at least of mine in the

past who have fallen on hard times recently so you also had a

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