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or by subscribing for the audio only directly in the Apple Podcast app this past week,

myself and Rolling Stones, Larisha Paul, got into everything about the new Normani album,

dopamine, so you don't want to miss that. Gorgeous, gorgeous, my queer pop party is happening next weekend, Friday, June 28th, here in New York. It is currently sold out online, but we will have more tickets at the door. This is our pride party. It's going to be a blowout. So even if you didn't snag tickets online, you should still come out and party with us

on Friday at the Sultan Room in Bushwick, Friday, June 28th, that is, at the Sultan Room in

Bushwick. And then our next LA party will be on July 26th at Los Globos in Silver Lake. And the link

for that is available in the show notes of this episode as well. And I also want to plug that

Gorgeous Gorgeous is appearing as a silent disco at Lincoln Center's Summer for the City

series on July 22nd. So that will be free from 7 to 11. That's a Saturday. And that's going to be a

huge thing. So you should definitely come out and see me and the rest of the gorgeous crew at Lincoln Center on July 22nd

from 7-211 as part of Lincoln Center's Summer in the City series. So I'm very excited for that

silent disco. All right. So it's time for our mid-year pop check-in. This is a yearly tradition on the

show. But this year, given how many main pop girls have been releasing music, we did things a little

bit differently. I invited my friend Ira Madison III onto the show. You know him. You love him from Keep It and from this show where he's appeared numerous times. We discussed each of the main pop girl albums from this year so far. That is Ariana Grande's Eternal Sunshine, Casey Musgraves, Deeper Well, Beyonce's Cowboy Carter, Taylor Swift's The Tortured Poets Department, Duolipa's Radical Optimism, Billy Elish's Hit Me Hard and Soft, and Charlie XX's Brat.

We rank each of them with a pitchfork score each, and then at the end of it,

Ira and I share our final lists of the best to worst main pop girl albums of 2024.

It's been a busy year, but it was fun to get to reflect

in this way. So without further ado, here is my conversation about the main pop girl albums of

24 with Ira Madison the third. Okay, I'm here once again with the host of Keepit and the writer

of the new substack, Frank Ira Madison the third. Ira, welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me. That's ira Madison.substack.com. You know what I love about substacks? Go on. Like everyone is just their name. Dot substack.com for the most part because it's like if you don't remember the title of someone's, you can just assume, let me just type in their name. dot substack.com and find it, you know? Is that hunters or is hers hung up? Yeah, it's hunterherstack.com. My friend Brendan Holder, Brennan Holder. It's like, I think everyone has that for the most part, like just their name. Yeah, that is convenient. But also I just want to make sure that everybody understands that Ira just referred to himself

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