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Big Blue Banter: A New York Giants Football Podcast

Ranking the Giants position by position vs. the NFC East

Big Blue Banter: A New York Giants Football Podcast

Blue Wire

Sports News, Football, Sports, News

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Dan and Nick respond to an interesting question a listener posed to them a few weeks back – where do the Giants stack up vs the rest of the NFC East? The best way to do this was to go position by position so that’s exactly what they did. They ranked each position group in the NFC East and then totaled up the points each team accrued. This exercise proved to be interesting and surprising in many ways as it pertains to the strengths of each roster and also where the division stacks up vs. the NFL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Blue Wire.

0:05.0

Welcome back.

0:06.0

It's the big blue banter.

0:07.4

New York Giants football podcast.

0:09.4

I'm Dan Schneier.

0:10.2

Join me,

0:10.5

is always my ghost, Nick Palado.

0:12.3

They were here to do a little fun discussion for the dead time of the off season.

0:16.5

We've got some time to go until training camp.

0:18.7

And so we wanted to break down how the Giants roster compares to the rest of the NFC East. We've heard Joe Shane. We've heard Brian Daibble. We've heard just about everyone talk about how important it is to stack up against your division and to win those division games. And how, you know, at times roster construction is dependent on what's going on in your division.

0:34.8

So we wanted to see where the Giants stack up against the rest of the division. So we rank the Giants by position group versus the division. And then we rank the entire division as well, Nick. So we'll have a little bit of a discussion off of that. Before we do any of that, though, how was your weekend, bud? My weekend was great, Dan. Thank you so much. And this exercise, I have to say,

0:35.9

it was a little bit more difficult than I imagine with some of these position groups. I'll say one thing, though, just going through the interior defensive line position group. The NFC East is just king shit at the interior defensive line. What a freaking division we have. And I think the Giants might might be at the top but we'll have to wait

1:10.9

and see i definitely thought it was interesting to go through just all these teams looking at different

1:15.6

you know grades from pro football focus advanced stats and different things that you know just

1:20.3

thinking back to the six games we got to see of these teams last year to the two each against the

1:25.4

giants on film which is probably our largest sample size we had against any team but but the Vikings. And it was just interesting to think through. I think what you said is the is the key takeaway here. And it was as expected. These are really good teams in the trenches. These are teams with really good defensive fronts. But I was actually surprised at another position that stood out to me is having a lot of talent across the board all four teams in the division. That's the edge rusher position. There are a lot of good pass rushers in this division. It was not that easy for me to rank the four teams, though, you know, where the Giants stack up maybe, I think it's probably going to be similar for both of us, but the rest of those teams are tough to stack up against each other. I have maybe a different opinion on that, and there's some teams that have one really good pass rush or one that might be fading and things like that, some older players. So I was definitely intrigued by not only a defensive line, but the pass rush. It just goes to show, like, it's going to be a big season for Evan Neal. It's going to be a big season for Ben Redison, if he plays plays, it's going to be a big season for Josh Azudu and John Michael Schmitz because, and he honestly, you know, everybody but Andrew Thomas probably belongs in that sentence because this is every single time he faces a vision, there's good pass rushers and there's good stout fronts to really free up these pass rushers. So we'll have to see what happens there on that front. Just something that really put in my mind. Like if the Giants do go back in next year's offseason, Nick, I'm hoping and I'm thinking that they're going to probably be focused once again. I'm rebuilding out the trenches. Probably guard is going to be a major priority next offseason, to be honest. I don't think Lewinsky is a big part of their future. And so you really have to find a way to protect yourself against these interior fronts and these pass rushes. I mean, you've got to look at the Cowboys and Eagles just in general before we get into the quarterback position and spark this off. They led the league in pressure rate. Cowboys were actually higher than the Eagles with a 25.6% pressure rate. The Eagles were just behind them at 25.5% followed by the Jets, Jags, Chiefs, and then the New York Giants. One reason why is because the New York Giants brought more blitzes than anybody else in the league, but Philadelphia didn't necessarily do that. And Dallas has Michael Parsons. So this division protection is king, and that's going to allow your quarterback to cook. It's going to allow your rushing game to also be effective. You need to protect the quarterback. You need to have a good pocket. The Giants, it's got to be their main priority heading into the season. Yeah, it really is their main priority. And we're going to see how that shapes out in training camp. But let's dive into some of the rankings here, Nick. We'll go position by position here. So let's start with a quarterback and give me your rankings and then your rationale. Quarterback was an interesting one. I didn't know who to put number one. Now, Washington is last for me. We're not even really 100% certain who they're starting quarterback is going to be. Is it going to be Sam Howe? Maybe it's Jacoby Brissette who they brought in. I think Jake Fromm is also on that roster, which is kind of funny. Giants got Daniel Jones, but I had to go with somebody who may have won the MVP last year if he didn't get injured. And that is Jalen Hertz, and I get it. This is a collective approach. Football is a team game. It's a little bit hard to distinguish between, oh, well,

4:16.8

Jalen Hertz has better weapons. Jalen Hertz has better protection. Jailen Hertz has better this.

4:21.0

All of those factors are true, but I still don't believe those factors negate the fact that he was

4:26.3

the best quarterback as well, because he was able to maximize that situation and develop since

4:32.1

his time at Alabama and his time at Oklahoma. So I was coming down to him and Dak Prescott.

4:37.2

So I went with Jalen Hertz number one. And then I went with Dak Prescott, followed by Daniel

4:42.6

Jones at a strong three. I think Daniel Jones is at least in the conversation now. I don't

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