we're going deep with bobby marks we're going to talk about all the offseason stuff that

it's still worth talking about now we're going to talk lebron also um what's going on the anatomy

of a bad deal,

and then we just keep going and going and going.

So it was fun there.

And we've got a longer life advice for you with Kyle getting ready for a celebration of America's independence.

So holiday theme.

Have a great holiday.

Everybody's checking out the pot.

We'll talk to you again, normal schedule next week, Tuesday, Thursday.

Bobby Marks, NBA insider from ESPN, former front office member.

Great time to have him on.

I thought I'd be able to wait a little bit longer, but we're just not ready to because I want to talk about the offseason in a very normal way and then obviously the expertise that you bring into all the stuff.

So now that we've had a few days to think about the Milwaukee Pacers decision, we know Turner goes to Milwaukee, the stretch on Dame.

The more I thought about it, and I opened the show on Tuesday with it, it's like I could make an argument that I don't like it for either side in a way.

Give me a sense of how desperate the bucks were to do

something like this for Miles Turner. Yeah, I think it's funny. There's probably like seven

different layers we could look at it. I think from the stretch provision, stretching his number

over five years at 22 and a half million really

that was really their loan option right they're like they basically had the option of running it

back with this group um that lost in the first round Lopez and they certainly brought some of these

guys back with Gary Trent and Bobby Portis um because where they were financially it was like right, right, oh, we just have the non-taxed

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