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Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've never watched game film with Matt Eberflus either.

I'm Greg Rosenthal, and I'm talking to my friend, J.P. Acosta, of SB Nation.

And, JP, you made a mistake.

You did too awesome of a job last time.

You were a fan favorite of the listeners of NFL Daily.

So I asked you back real quick.

And I'm talking Iber Fluse because we're talking coaches today.

We're going to rank the best coaches in the NFL.

Hope you're ready.

I'm ready.

I'm ready for it.

Unfortunately, Matt Iberfus will not be on this list, but I think his beard should be an honorable mention.

I know. It feels like kicking a guy when he's down to call him out. He's a very good defensive coordinator.

And his defense in Chicago had an identity, and he got it going. So that's one thing I look for in a coaching staff and a head

coach especially. I think he'll be good in Dallas. But he's actually someone I was thinking about.

And I'm referring to the article that Seth Wickersham wrote about Caleb Williams. It's actually

an excerpt from his book. We'll mention that maybe a little later, but just that he was just all

on an island. No one was watching game film with him. And just thinking about Iberfuss makes me think about if we did this exercise a year ago right now. I think there'd be more obvious guys at the bottom. And so that was my overarching thought. We're not going to rank the first time head coaches just because it seems silly. But me and you were going to go back

and forth making picks and just rank them one to 29 because there's four first time head

coaches. And so we're not going to mess with Kellyn Moore. It's like, what are we going to do

ranking him? But Mike Rable, Pete Carroll, like, they're up for grabs because they've been head

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