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Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've never watched game film with Matt

Eber Fluse either.

I'm Greg Rosenthal, and I'm talking to my friend, J.P. Acosta, of SB Nation.

And, JP, you made a mistake. You did too awesome of a job last time.

You were a fan favorite of the listeners of NFL Daily. So I asked you back real quick. And I'm

talking Iber Fluse because we're talking coaches today. We're going to rank the best coaches in the NFL.

Hope you're ready. I'm ready. I'm ready for it. Unfortunately, Matt Eberthus will not be on this list,

but I think his beard should be an honorable manager. I know. It feels like kicking a guy

when he's down to call him out. He's a very good defensive coordinator. And his defense in Chicago

had an identity and he got it going. So that's one thing I look for in a coaching

staff and a head coach especially. I think he'll be good in Dallas. But he's actually someone

I was thinking about. And I'm referring to the article that Seth Wickersham wrote about

Caleb Williams is actually an excerpt from his book. We'll mention that maybe a little later,

but just that he was just all on an island.

No one was watching game film with him.

And just thinking about Iberfus makes me think about if we did this exercise a year ago right now.

I think there'd be more obvious guys at the bottom.

And so that was my overarching thought.

We're not going to rank the first time head coaches just because it seems silly. But me and you

were going to go back and forth making picks and just rank them one to 29 because there's four

first time head coaches. And so we're not going to mess with Kellan Moore. It's like, what are we

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