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Many of the critiques of ranked choice voting or instant runoff voting

don't really engage with the mechanics or the likely outcomes and fans of that kind of voting

have a growing list of places using it to select public officials.

Scott Turner advocates for instant runoff voting.

We spoke earlier this month.

It is unfortunate, I think, that a lot of people's introduction

to rank choice voting was the New York City May oral primary.

Absolutely.

Okay, so one, let's clarify what actually happened there and why rank choice voting wasn't really at fault?

Well, for one, they double counted the same batch of ballots over again.

Human error.

That's not a knock on rank choice voting that's a knock on the qualifications and

ability of the individuals running the election at that point and you know in New York

...