The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode.

Hey everybody, welcome to the call to mastery. to mastery I'm Jordan Rayner this is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others every week I host a conversation with a Christian who is world

class at what they do vocationally. We talk about their path to mastery, their daily

habits, and how the Gospel of Jesus Christ influences

their work. Today's guest doesn't need much of an introduction. Today we're

talking with Randy Alcorn. He's the New York Times

best-selling author of more than 50 books including Heaven, which is one of the

most life-changing books I've ever read. You've probably heard me

mentioned on the podcast many times before. That book alone has been translated

to something like 70 languages, sold millions of copies. Trust me, Randy is a world class of what he does. He's a prolific

writer and today he's the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. Before that, he was a pastor for 14 years.

Obviously, seminary train knows what he's talking about on this topic.

So Randy and I sat down.

We recently talked about the difference between heaven and the new earth

and what it means for our work.

We talked about the two terrific questions Randy asks when he's trying to evaluate requests for his time and we talked about the very real tragic situation that Randy and his wife Nancy are going through right now with

Nancy's fight with cancer and just talking through the resolute hope that the gospel provides in the face of those kinds of trials.

This is a really special episode.

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