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Well, I don't frankly think it matters whether there was an explicit quid pro quo in this conversation with Zelensky. I think if an American president

is asking another foreign leader to interfere in an American election, essentially what we're

trying to figure out what was going on between Trump and Putin, then there has to be consequences

for that. We spent a year trying to figure out whether he had asked Putin to interfere.

We just found out he asked Zelensky to interfere. I don't know that it matters. It's another

country. Okay. So are you saying that an impeachment investigation should be to open up right now?

I mean, if you were in the House still, you were a former House member, you're now in the Senate,

you could be a juror. I understand that. But at this point, sounds like you're saying, this one's open and

shut. You just said here, don't get creative. Yeah, I think this one would be open and shut if we had

more information than simply anonymous sources that newspapers have written on. I think the whistleblower

has to come forward. I think that Republicans who claim

to be national security experts need to demand that the whistleblower present himself or herself

before Congress. But I think if we do have evidence from this whistleblower that the president

indeed tried to bully a foreign power into affecting our elections, then we have to do something about it.

Yes, Adam Schiff, this is what he said. He said this would be an extraordinary remedy,

a remedy of last resort, speaking about impeachment, and not first resort. But if the president

is essentially withholding military aid, at the same time he's trying to browbeat a foreign leader into doing something illicit,

providing dirt on his opponent during a presidential campaign, then that may be the only

remedy that is co-equal to the evil that this conduct represents. Nancy Pelosi, quote,

if the administration persists in blocking this whistleblower for that this conduct represents. Nancy Pelosi, quote,

if the administration persists in blocking this whistleblower from disclosing to Congress,

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