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Omar laughed that Americans speak of Al-Qaeda in a menacing tone and remark that you don't say America with this intensity.

You say Al-Qaeda makes you proud. Al-Qaeda makes you proud.

You don't speak that way about America.

Daniel, again, this is false.

This is false.

And I want to be as clear as possible about this,

because I think this is one of the most egregious false claims Trump has made as president.

Ilhan Omar did not praise al-Qaeda. She did not say al-Qaeda makes you proud. She did not say al-Qaeda is great or wonderful, as Trump said earlier this week. This is what happened. She did a 2013 interview on a local Minnesota PBS station where the host of the show on Middle

East issues was musing about why Americans used Arabic words for things like Al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab,

madrasas, rather than the English translation, which he said would be less scary.

And she basically agreed with this, and she said it's about creating this sort of scary intensity.

And kind of chuckling, she said she had a professor in college who would say the name Al-Qaeda

and sort of tense up and he wouldn't tense up or speak with the same intensity about America or England.

And so there are things to criticize there. I mean, I've seen people criticize her by saying she shouldn't laugh at all when talking about people's reactions to Al-Qaeda.

People saying she shouldn't suggest there's some equivalence between al-Qaeda and America or England.

That is all fair.

But to say that she praised al-Qaeda could not be further from the truth.

Yeah.

In fact, during that interview, it was a 2013 interview on a PBS station in Minnesota.

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