Hey guys, welcome to the Bill Barnwell show.

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The athletics Jordan Rugg re-joins for the first time to talk about the Rams.

What is going on with Matthew Stafford's elbow?

Why is it so complicated?

Jordan doesn't make it simple, but she gives us a very smart answer to that.

And the rest of the stuff happening with the Rams, this upcoming season, plus what's going on

with the Vikings and Kevin O'Connell, former Rams offensive coordinator, now the head coach there.

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Now here's Jordan talking about the Rams and Matthew Stafford's bulky elbow.

All right, joining me now here on the Bill Barnwell show, someone I have been meaning to have on for a while.

And then last week, she attempted to do something that is impossible on the internet.

And I respected so much that I felt like this was the perfect time to have her on the show.

She tried to pull off the most difficult thing a writer can do, which is to say,

quote unquote, a few things can be simultaneously true. That is a level of nuance that is not possible

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